^ if europeans are so "gloomy" and different then how can you explain natasha c8 being so happy all the time even when she obviously spent more time in europe than those two whiners? not once did she say "she did bad coz she's european"..

^I don't care if a girl is nice. i don't want a nice girl to win. i want a girl who can model to win. if they're going to win on the basis of being well-behaved, then they should just go join "america's next top soup-kitchen director" or something. people keep forgetting this is AMERICA'S NEXT TOP MODEL!

but that's just it, clark sucks as a model AND a person.

haters are blind to bias.

whoooooo David burned y'all!

LOL please. you're looking down on other people ASSUMING that they only thought she deserved to go based on her personality w/o even considering the fact that they could share a different opinion than you in that she has had the weakest pics to date. i was explaining that i think clark most likely deserved to go because i beleive she sucks as a model and person (at least based on what we saw of her personality). was she improving as a model? yes, which is why I would consider keeping her. but her pictures were still not good and she didn't look like a model AT ALL. at least not facially.

nostalgia...haven't heard the term burned in a while...anyway, believe what you all want. clark has WAY more potential than joslyn, is younger and more fit than joslyn, and took a way better picture than joslyn...which = clark is a better model than joslyn. whether or not a person can seperate their opinions from a fact is a different story.

^ If all the cycles were based on potential and pictures, the order of eliminations would be so different.

clark took a better picture THAT WEEK, but as a whole, joslyn had a MUCH better portfolio. yes, clark obviosuly looked more like a model than joslyn, but there's also a part of DESERVING your place by working damn hard and taking good pictures (for the most part) which Joslyn did.

^Joslyn only took 2 good pics, IMO.

joslyn was only coasting. and i thought you said clark doesn't look like a model AT ALL. besides, the only reason joslyn looked good in those photos was because they photoshopped them like crazy. there's no way she looks like that naturally. just look at her preshow photos.

i think she was one of the best the first THREE weeks, but whatevs. clark doesn't look like a model at all facially lol. she looks like a man. but she obviously has a better body than joslyn and at least looks under the age of 50, which is why i said she lookd like amodel more than joslyn. i had already said, i'm not sure who i would have eliminated. i just don't think you can assume that people thinking clark should have left were basing that solely on her personality.

^^ proof of that is if you compare joslyn's award show pic to her makeover pic.. totally different nose

I think Clark should've stayed that week. Those shots were photoshopped SO much that they gave up photoshopping the rest of her shots and thats why they got worse. jk. But Clark was improving, her photo that week was better, more potential than Joslyn and a couple of the girls left, a slammin slender body, a face for fashion, and she was rising imo. So that could've gone either way. But I think Clark should've stayed.
And saying she looks like a man is ridiculous.

And I think that everyone has different opinions and different tastes. I think Clark deserved to leave. She wasn't a good model, nor a good person, imo.

saying she looks like a man is ridiculous. show me these men you speak of.

let me rephrase that; she had MANLY features in her face.

like?

Really I'm curious to know?

^i thought eliminating Clark was wrong ... she's the only one who looked like a fashion model at the promo photo (that was probably her best photo) and they let Joslyn stay who doesn't look much like a model and ends up getting the boot 2 weeks after ...